Inconvenient Chats

Climate change is real, accelerating, and profoundly urgent - yet the world isn’t changing quickly or deeply enough.

In our experience, many important conversations are being avoided, maybe unintentionally. They're inconvenient: messy, emotionally charged, a little uncomfortable, ideologically polarized, or simply complex.

This is why we have started Inconvenient Chats, our podcast to create room for some of these conversations – not with all the answers, but with honest questions. We believe that if something makes you uncomfortable, that’s often a sign it’s worth exploring.

We’re two friends who both have been working with climate change and sustainability for a number of years. Each week we’ll explore a new topic, we break it down, discuss different perspectives and explore solutions – and hopefully feel more comfortable talking about them.

The episodes will be short and will come out every week.We want to challenge ourselves to think, understand and question our assumptions about the world and ourselves. And learn a bunch on the side.

So join us when we are making space for the voices in our own heads - the doubts, fears, wonderings. We invite you to come along in that exploration.

By having uncomfortable conversations openly, with curiosity, we hope to invite and encourage dialogues that explore difficult topics with critical thinking, emotional honesty, and kindness in a world that often prioritizes perfection and certainty.

If it’s inconvenient, let’s chat.

Inconvenient Chats

Latest episodes

How do business and human rights fit together? with Salma Houerbi

How do business and human rights fit together? with Salma Houerbi

53m 32s

What does it take to make respect for human rights more than a corporate commitment on paper? Kaisa is joined by business and human rights expert Salma Houerbi to explore how the field has evolved from debating whether companies have responsibilities to the much harder question of how to turn them into meaningful outcomes for workers and communities. We discuss the role—and limits—of the business case, why process and reporting are not the same as impact, and why context, power and the voices of rights holders matter.

Why is stopping deforestation so difficult? with Markus Kröger

Why is stopping deforestation so difficult? with Markus Kröger

43m 30s

In this episode, I sit down with Professor Markus Kröger, who has spent the past two decades researching the political economy of deforestation, resource extraction and global development, with extensive fieldwork in the Amazon and Latin America.

Scientists believe the Amazon may be approaching a tipping point — a threshold beyond which parts of the rainforest could gradually shift into a much drier savanna ecosystem. What's particularly concerning is that this could happen long before the entire forest is lost, with consequences that extend far beyond the Amazon by accelerating climate change and increasing the risk of other tipping points....

How is culture shaped by fossil fuels? with Sakari Säynäjoki

How is culture shaped by fossil fuels? with Sakari Säynäjoki

52m 5s

Today's guest is Sakari Säynäjoki, a doctoral researcher in Interdisciplinary Environmental Sciences at the University of Helsinki who studies the interdependence between modern societies and fossil fuels. Sakari’s research revolves around how fossil fuels enable not only our material realities, but in addition, shape our culture, values and thinking. The consequence: the green transition is a cultural challenge at least as much as it is a technological one. Does the general understanding and discourse of climate change overlook this?

How do you navigate climate guilt and flying? with Fred Baker

How do you navigate climate guilt and flying? with Fred Baker

50m 57s

In this week’s episode of Inconvenient Chats we are joined by Fred Baker, a sustainability strategy consultant here in Denmark. We delve into our personal relationships with flying and the guilt that often accompanies it. Both of us have made attempts to reduce our carbon footprints when it comes to air travel. However, the struggle remains, and we find ourselves questioning whether we should feel guilty about taking flights at all.